Friday, December 5, 2008

Time for Franken to give it up.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has several thousand of the challenged ballots in the Franken-Coleman recount, and you can go through each of them, see who challenged it and why, and vote on them. I just spent some time looking through them and it is fascinating. First of all the law is clear in Minnesota, if the intent of the voter is clear the vote counts, even if the voter doesn't follow the directions. So if some moron circle's Coleman's name or draws a new bubble next to Franken and fills it in, these votes count. The other rule is if the voter writes his name on the ballot, it is invalid. With these simple rules one quickly realizes at least 95% of the challenges are ridiculous, the ballot is absolutely clear. Although both sides have made some absurd challenges, in the sample I voted on there were more from Franken that I found beyond abusrd. One guy started to fill in Franken than put an X through it, put Coleman in the write in slot and wrote next to it "I really want to vote for Coleman", but Franken challenged it as not clear intent. Many of the challenges have a completely filled in solid circle next to one candidate and a stray scratch somewhere else. The canvassing board should be able to cruise through these ballots.

Meanwhile the hand recount has increased Coleman's lead from 200-300 votes to 687 at its conclusion. There's no way Franken is going to make this up among the challenged ballots, it's time for both sides to withdraw the hundred of frivilous challenges and wrap this up. Al, you lost, time to get over it.

19 comments:

levee guy said...

Yesterday's news has Franken up by 250. RWP, I hope you're a better math teacheer than you are a predictor of election results.

Anonymous said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/18/frankens-senate-victory-c_n_152241.html

funny when they actually count the votes, huh?

right-wing prof said...

They counting of the votes has been egregiously biased. For instance check out

This!


vote and notice that the canvassing board awarded it to Franken. Real fair. There are dozens more just as egregious. Al Franken will not be in the senate.

Anonymous said...

That would be Senator Franken to you RWP.

Sincerely, A LWP

Dawg Doc said...

oops...Norm lost. Let's sue!!!!

right-wing prof said...

Uh sorry dude, Franken stole this election. He didn't steal it so much during the recount, it was stolen in the first two days after the election when hundreds of new votes were "discovered" for Franken. Five times as many votes changed hands in this race as in all the other statewide races combined during the compiling of the final tallies (before the recount began). Multiple precincts with more votes than voters registered, etc.. The funny thing is this case is going to go to the Supreme court and Coleman is going to win and the controlling precedent on the matter is going to be Bush v. Gore.

Dawg Doc said...

If the Supreme Court chooses to hear this case and chooses to apply Bush v. Gore it would be fascinating. The issues, however, are completely different.

I believe the MN recounts tried to establish a consistent procedure for determining voter intent, something allowed by state law.

Second, the Supreme Court said that Bush v. Gore could not be used in future cases as it applied solely to the question before the court that day. Scholars debate whether or not the Court can limit the use of its decisions but my suspicion is that this case will not be heard by the Supremes.

Coleman's career is over. He would never have been in the Senate to begin with had not Senator Wellstone been killed in a plane crash 10 days before the 2002 elections. Coleman's senate term was an accident of history and his 15 minutes are up.

Anonymous said...

wow, i disagree with almost everything in your blog. just sayin'.
- whiny liberal in DC

Anonymous said...

"They counting of the votes has been egregiously biased."

Reality always does have a "libr-UHL" bias.

No wonder American young adults are so bad at math, they have professors like yourself. What happens when you're part of a party that hates intellectualism.

Anonymous said...

http://senaterecount.startribune.com/ballots/index.php?review_date=2008-12-18&index=171

Um are you retarded, it even says the Canvassing board gave it to Coleman. You must have eaten paint chips as a child.

right-wing prof said...

I love anonymous posters who are illterate and profane and think they are anonymous but you're not Houston man, I have your IP address

70.132.141.9

and I will soon have your address.

An Internet Geek said...

As if having someone's IP address actually means anything. Most IP addresses are dynamically assigned ephemera. Unless you somehow have access to the ISP's log files, you're not necessarily going find out who this person is.

Anonymous said...

RWP, where have you been? I enjoy reading your posts. Come back!

Anonymous said...

Spoken like a true fascist. "I have your IP number, and now I'm going to find out where your live!!" Ooh I'm so scared.

You had no response to the ballot that you said was given to Franken when it was actually given to Coleman. Nice try, but you should start practicing the words SENATOR Norm Coleman

Anonymous said...

LOL. j.k. You wish. HA HA. SENATOR AL FRANKEN. I know it pains you.

JOHN THOMAS said...

here in 2009 we pause to thank you for the laugh.

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